In this gripping interview, former Financial Times editor Lionel Barber reveals the secrets behind billionaire Masayoshi Son and shares chilling details about his unforgettable encounter with Vladimir Putin at the Kremlin.

Lionel offers exclusive insights from his new book 'Gambling Man,' diving into his time spent with Masa Son and recounting some of his most impactful interviews as editor of the Financial Times.

Discover untold stories about global power players, insider business tactics, and what it’s like to sit across from one of the world’s most powerful leaders. Watch now for a rare glimpse into the world of high-stakes journalism and secretive billionaires.

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Chapters

00:00 - intro
01:17 - How has journalism changed?
02:24 - Lionel’s take on the US Election
04:38 - Masa Son’s appetite for risk
06:00 - Lionel’s advice for Masa Son
07:20 - What has Lionel learned?
07:55 - Interviewing Vladimir Putin
12:41 - Who is Masa Son
18:09 - What was Masa Son’s family home like?
20:45 - The most outrageous story of Masa Son
22:09 - What is the future of Soft Bank
25:47 - Least enjoyable interview
26:51 - Why Lionel’s book on Masa Son was the hardest
28:30 - Why was the book on Masa Son called Gambling Man?
32:15 - Masa Son’s Alibaba investment
43:38 - Why is Masa obsessed with Napoleon
46:28 - How does Masa keep finding Unicorn companies?
48:50 - Did Masa steal ARM?
54:10 - $45bn in 45 minutes
59:20 - WeWork investment
1:04:20 - Masa’s $500m OpenAI investment
1:07:44 - How did Masa cope losing 96% of his wealth
1:09:43 - How long can Masa Son go on?