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My guest today is Paul Kingsnorth, author of The Abbey of Misrule Substack, and of many books, including 'Confessions of a Recovering Environmentalist.' We spoke about Paul's journey from environmentalism to Orthodox Christianity, the relationship between Christian millenarianism and the fear of civilisational collapse, the attraction of zombie apocalypse films, and why secularism cannot last.

In the extended part of the episode, we spoke about the political implications of Paul's idea of 'the machine', the failure of groups like Extinction Rebellion, and the reality of satanism.

00:24 Problems with modernity
06:25 Typology of environmentalists
11:12 The collapse of a global empire
12:41 ‘Collapstards’
23:02 Fertility and modernity
32:33 The case for Christianity
35:40 Technology and spirituality
42:45 Should we let the welfare state die?
48:21 Environmentalist policy

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