Luke Thomas: After my video previously looking at referee Herb Dean's interventions in the Sean O'Malley vs. Merab Dvalishvili fight, Herb and I actually spoke on the phone. Here's where things stand now.

00:00 Intro
1:10 What Should MMA Look Like?
2:40 Referee Intervention Is Good
8:24 Being Busy vs. Meaningfully Working
10:22 What Do YOU Think?

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