From Pharaoh to Hitler to Hamas: Kim Smiley & Arsen Ostrovsky
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 Published On Jul 25, 2024

Welcome to Empathy Empire.
In this episode, we welcome renowned human rights attorney Arsen Ostrovsky, CEO of the International Legal Forum. Arsen is at the helm of a global coalition of lawyers fighting for Israel and the Jewish people after the October 7th massacre by Hamas.

00:00 - Start
00:11 - Introduction
00:40 - Welcome to Empathy Empire
00:55 - Sleep post-October 7
01:52 - Journey from criminal to civil rights law
05:25 - Did you foresee the rise in antisemitism?
07:27 - Were you taken by surprise by Hamas?
09:07 - There were some indications about Hamas’s plan
10:44 - Suicidal empathy
12:48 - Seeking justice for the victims of Hamas
17:23 - Funding
18:22 - Can Hamas be eliminated?
21:03 - Personal impact
25:37 - We are all survivors
27:02 - Hamas is no different than the Nazis
27:58 - The radicalization of society
28:46 - Narrative wars
32:28 - Israel does not want this war
33:46 - Israel cares more about Palestinian lives than Hamas
34:38 - Who are the IDF?
37:40 - Great sacrifice
40:21 - Indicting the United Nations
42:49 - Israel on trial at the International Criminal Court
44:29 - Me too unless you’re a Jew
46:38 - What makes a good Israel advocate?
49:22 - What can people in the diaspora do to help?
51:31 - Allies are imperative
52:16 - Self-care
55:31 - Self-empathy
57:34 - Conclusion

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