Woodblock printmaker Dave Bull in Tokyo - on a live Twitch stream in August of 2024 - relates a personal episode from some years before.

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The 'Remembering a Carver' video mentioned by Dave is here:    • Remembering a carver - Ito Susumu  

Dave's Mokuhankan website is here:
https://mokuhankan.com/index.html

The Twitch streams are here:
  / japaneseprintmaking  

One of the old 'cloud' videos!
   • From my window : 2011_11_20