Jim and Ben chat from the early days of COVID lockdown about letting go of the pressure to create, remote collab work and assembling a rock-voltron of people you have worked with to channel into an imaginary guide.

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Animations and Logo: Tonianne Tartaro @tonianaro and Emily Argiro @em_argiro

Credit Sequence Music: “Flying On By” by Jackson, Finn and Jim Adkins.
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Produced and Edited by Jim Adkins
 
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